Dumb and Dumber versus Global Warming
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February 3, 2011
If you’ve ever seen the movie “Dumb & Dumber” – you would automatically understand the subject matter here will be about those who lack the brain power to do anything but keep their respiratory system moving along.
So it is with jaw-dropping incredulity that I read yesterday’s Wall Street Journal article, “The Carbon Tax Miracle Cure.” What are these people smoking?
Mr. Blinder, an actual professor of economics and public affairs genius at—now get this—Princeton , not only took the time to write an article about the need for a carbon tax, but one of his core reasons for this was because of global warming .
Thus supporting my oft repeated – our educational system is broken all the way through the college and university level. As well as my other repetitious statement, having a degree is no proof of intelligence.
I was reading this article surrounded by various candles, matches and flashlights scattered around me as I looked out my Michigan kitchen window to see a snowdrift that was already nine feet tall and growing exponentially.
I read this article knowing too that snowfall, just a scant two months into 2011, has reached epic proportions and winter isn't even close to being over yet!
I am honestly curious how people like this have a working brain that enables them to even breathe.
Or is it that they have just been living in some type of self-imposed isolation and didn’t get the memo?
First, back in the 1960’s and 1970’s there was a catastrophic global cooling going on.
No really ! The earth was going to become one giant Popsicle in less than ten years according to the environmental activists at the time! [note, I don't normally use this source but it had a good encapsulated account of this environmental nonsense ]
I remember reading an article from that era where some scientists predicted global famines, assured death of almost all the earth’s crops and a prediction that we’d all be sitting on top of one great big iceberg in less than a decade.
This morphed into the infamous modern “Global Warming”. Ice caps were melting, polar bears were dying, the sky was falling…and this was absolute. There was no arguing with the experts. Who can forget the ridiculous “An Inconvenient Truth” a movie that was so resoundly and thoroughly debunked, in a normal world, the maker of said movie would have become a laughing stock. Instead, incredulously, Al Gore won a Nobel Peace Prize.
Huh?
Recently, it was revealed, with numerous firings and “stepping downs” to verify such findings, many of these global warming cult leaders were fudging their data.
NO! Say it ain’t so!
They’d publish the made-up data, because they had a need for it to coincide with their global warming dire predictions. Turned out, the earth was actually, once again, cooling. Who knew?!
To be fair, they did try to rename our imminent climate predictions by calling it “Climate Change.” It was too late though. There was little to no evidence that:
1) There was any dramatic climate change or scientific evidence that there was going to be global disaster on the horizon.
2) IF there was some change, there was no conclusive evidence that SUV’s or mankind caused it.
3) The predictions have little to do with a hole in the ozone layer or CO2 emissions or man’s “greedy” development in cutting down trees or any of the other lefty loony predictions.
There also was another recent article in The Wall Street Journal that in a related type of situation, gave us a bit of an insight into the We Are the World/Save the World mentality.
In trying to find out what happened to the mysterious disappearing frogs awhile back, "Green" Scientist Dudes and Dudettes began to study what could have caused the mysterious depletion of frog population. These poor little creatures were disappearing at an alarming rate and these peeps wanted to save the frogs.
So they studied them. They went to the places these vanishing frogs resided and took samples. They went back into their labs, they concocted tests and then went back into the field again to gather more samples. Etc. etc.
Turns out, in an almost comical but most assuredly an ironic turn of events, the solution to the mystery was a fungus. Not caused by pollution (of which they were already predisposed to believe). Not caused by SUV’s, not caused by man’s mistreatment of the Avatars. It was just a naturally occurring fungus. But here’s the comical catch.
The emotionally charged do-gooder scientists actually helped SPREAD this frog plague by getting some of this fungus on their clothing or shoes. Then they’d revisit the habitat of the dying frogs, directly causing recontamination and spreading of the fungus. Thus ultimately causing more frog deaths.
I want these so-called scientists and nut jobs to stop having power in my government. I want the EPA gutted. I want their offices closed down and all those environmental, emotionally geared kooks to lose their jobs. I want to start from scratch and have a much smaller STATE RUN agency in each state that determines – based on the local needs and environment – what needs to be done or not done. I want it run by reasonable people who use their brain instead of use their emotions to charge their brain.
Better yet – let them go private and not state run.
This is what happens when Godless people think they are the ones with power. They believe some big bang that wasn’t caused by a greater intelligence, led to the order of life and all of its complexities. Just some random “bang” that came from nothing caused the complexity of the human eye or the orbit of the earth around the sun.
They believe that what man has put together man can choose to put asunder.
Thus they run around chasing after dying frogs and birds falling out of the sky actually believing that they can rule nature. They believe earth’s temperature fluctuations are caused by man.
I have a news flash. God created the heavens and the earth. While we as the stewards of this earth must respect all life and creation God has given us on loan, ultimately, it’s all God’s. We don’t own a thing no less control it.
Our U.S. constitution reflects God’s Creation. Our Bill of Rights does the same.
I want the environmentalists to be pushed back and relegated to a position of zero power. Let them of course have their voice. It is the U.S. after all and today, I woke up to a land where everyone has freedom of speech. But I want my tax dollars to stop paying for any organization, any paycheck of any employee of these organizations. If they’re so all-fired important, let them raise their own money. Give ole George Soros a ring-a-ling. I’m sure he’ll cough up a few billion to cover costs.
I don’t want any environmental agency to have anything to do with my tax dollars and it needs to stop yesterday.
I see it this way, that’s one huge way to tame our deficit – stop paying for loony activist cults run by Dumb & Dumber!
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I agree. And I intensely agree that our education system is broken. The breakers are the libs that infiltrated it years ago and now wield the power of extreme stupidity (willingly! 'cause I don't cut down anyone who's actually ignorant of something, but many educators are willingly leading young minds into outlandish imaginations, hence stupidity) over our Nation's system of teaching.
Well, I'll say this. The belief in Global warming is irrelevant. What people should ask themselves is this: Does the amount of pollution and toxins put into our environment, our streams, our oceans, and our air have a negative effect on our health?
If you say Yes, than you should probably support some type of moderate climate legislation to limit pollution.
What really gets me is, this........FIRST, it was "Global Warming".....that wasn't working out to good, then it was "Climate Change"...but that is not too good either, because, climates DO change........now, Obama has deemed it "Climate Disruption".
The corruption is rampart with poiticians and some selected scientist...
it is all about money...period.
Nice hub!
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ABSOLUTELY AGREE! Funny how in the 80's and 90's all these NORMAL weather changes were attributed to El Nino and El Nina. Apparently during the late 90's we became so politically correct that we had to come up with another "reason" for weather. One that would be offensive to Latinos. Right after Al Gore was done inventing the internet, he invented global warming. Since he's a politician and not a scientist he made it taxible instead of peer reviewable!LOL
Global warming is just a way of taxing us to death and a pretty wonderful way to let people like Al Gore get very, very rich. Our planet cools and heats up and it is all normal . There are many brilliant scientists who are sick of all this talk and panic about a non-issue. Voted up and useful.
I agree completely. Al Gore is nothing but a high-level conman. His house in Nashville is in the blue-blood, old money section of town called Belle Meade. This place boasts approximately 9 bedrooms and uses more energy than 30 average-size homes here. Obviously he's not too worried about his carbon footprint.
Right now, it's 32 degrees in Nashville. It's cloudy and they're predicting a "wintery mix" in the morning. It's February and it's always this cold here in February. In August, it'll be 98 with 85% humidity but that's the way it always is here in the Summer. Neither has a thing to do with the fictional Global Warming.
Simply put, ALGore is an idiot, a rich idiot but an idiot. He learned from the best - his father. Both make me ashamed they call themselves Tennesseans.
Regardless of which side you are on, there are people who behave unethically. That does not have anything to do with the science. You and your ilk can rant and rave all you want, spew rhetoric, and call people names. And some people will get caught up in it. Some people will fail to recognize that at the end of the day the scientific evidence you have to support your claim is a stack of about 10 sheet of paper. So, go ahead and huff and puff all you want - this isn't a straw hut.
A Steward is a caretaker, not a statue that stands around saying, "whatever happens, happens". If you see someone polluting a river does God say, "don't care"?
Exactly Wesman - it's the same thing all over the nation. Florida was the ONLY state in the ENTIRE U.S. that didn't have snow on the ground last month. Yeah - that global warming is a real pain in the butt...
Thanks for your comments!
Brenda- I couldn't agree more. It is an insidious evil that has permeated our schools and they have been indoctrinating our children for decades. That has to stop too.
LRC Blogger as I stated - we are to take care of the earth - but education is the way, not legislation. Just what we need, more government intrusion.
Lady Bird Johnson I believe - was the First Lady who introduced Don't be a Litter Bug. No legislation (at the time) and it enlightened us across America.
You can't force people into behaving themselves but you can educate people and most will do the right thing.
Thanks for adding to the discussion.
CMerritt - EXACTLY! Absolutely and TOTALLY true. Michigan once was an iceberg. The climate changes. Duh! It always has, it probably always will!
Thanks for your excellent additional comments!
C.J Wright - Loving these comments. VERY true!
Thanks for stopping by!
Pop - as we know from the Wiki Leaks leaks - (some good at least came out of the release of the documents), it's also to make leaders of nations rich. The Obama administration was working behind the scenes of that useless Green summit to coerce and bribe reluctant participating nations into agreeing to go along with all of the proposed global warming initiatives. It's meant to put money into the pockets of the powerful.
Thanks for your comments Pop! Always so good to see you!
Longhunter - what you describe is the definition of a liberal elite. The demand all kinds of regulations and laws to prevent "the little people" from living their lives. What they demand of others they rarely ever apply to themselves. They are such hypocrites.
Great comment! Thanks!
Good point Junkseller. No matter what group, there can sometimes be unethical people within the group. The problem with the entire Global Cooling/Warming/Climate Change/Whatever-new-name-they've-picked-trying-to-become-legitimate group is, MOST of them are unethical.
Now as for the scientific evidence I lack for my claims - you are kidding, aren't you? Do you mean to say that the climate on earth - even prior to man - didn't change? Is it your claim that the climate doesn't change and can't change unless people do it??? Rhetorical.
That the earth's climate changes is the premise and it is fact. This is proven. I'm afraid it's YOU and the Green movement who needs the proof to claim otherwise.
And I'm not sure about the last part of your comment. Somehow you appear to miss the point. We must take care of the planet. However, the environmental movement that has lied and cheated and produced untold amounts of false data to support their baseless and unprovable claims is not the group to do it. The "Green" movement has become a cult. The EPA has way, way over reached their power and should be dismantled.
We need reason and calm when it comes to taking care of the environment. Not the hysterical consistently WRONG solutions the liberal Green movement has foisted upon the world.
Saying things like "MOST of them" is terribly problematic. Who exactly is "them" for one thing, but also there is tremendous naivete to think you can not only form this group but then decide who belongs in it. I could just as easily say all climate change deniers are Evangelical Christian Tea-bagging nut-jobs, but I won't (not just because I wouldn't, but because they're not).
I, for instance, consider myself to be a scientist, and I do agree with the scientific consensus regarding Anthropogenic Climate Change. I would not however, want to be put into the same group as someone like Al Gore. Nor do I generally have any interest in co-mingling with the "green" movement.
The consensus doesn't give a hoot about the climate changing, they care about the rate at which it is changing. Drinking water is essential for us to live, yet, trying to drink a gallon a second would kill us. The rate of change is what matters. The consensus also agrees that the rate of climate change corresponds to the increasing impacts of human activity.
Keep in mind that scientific evidence is separate from the social and political decisions made based upon that evidence. Believing in the science of Climate Change doesn't mean automatically believing in the political decision of carbon taxing. The green movement and the EPA are social and political institutions, NOT scientific institutions.
I don't think I missed the point. Just that I didn't really make it, which was to suggest that seemingly we both at least agree that stewardship is important. I'm all for reason and calm, but is saying that the environmental movement "has lied and cheated and produced untold amounts of false data to support their baseless and unprovable claims" really an example of such. I don't think you win any battles that way, and you certainly don't even put a dent in the scientific debate in that way.
As for the science, the mountain of peer-reviewed experiments and research is overwhelming. Quite simply it is a Castle of Truth, to which your attacks are futile. It can only be brought down with better science. If you or anyone else has it then bring it out, otherwise you're just a big bad wolf, huffing and puffing at stone.
Carol -
Good passionate dissertation. Enjoyed it immensely. We should talk about it on the show next week.
All the Best,
Tim
junkseller - re: most of them: Most anyone - scientists, political activists, Hollywood stars, Al Gore types - in the modern day Environmental Movement are merely lemmings following junk science. Or - as in the case of Al Gore - they are con men. The scientists who should know better in this movement have either purposefully misled the public or they are too stupid to call themselves scientists in the first place as there is no CREDIBLE evidence that ANY change in the earth's atmosphere is caused by man. Especially with the latest deception uncovered within their own ranks.
You can show me ten scientists or even twenty who claim otherwise, I can match your scientists with twenty who say IF the climate is changing there is no evidence that it is tied to anything mankind has done. Those scientists who say that there is no real scientific evidence to tie global warming/climate changing etc. to mankind BTW, were the very scientists fired or threatened with bodily harm if they went public with these findings at the time. They've all been trying to speak out and thank God some heard - like The Wall Street Journal and published their findings over the years.
If you have premise "A" backed with scientific research 1,2 & 3 made by scientists Smith, Jones and Whosits - but then we find that Smith, Jones and Whosits dorked with every public research report that produced research findings 1,2 &3 for the last five years - it means that the PREMISE has to be tossed out on its non-scientific ear.
What must be done is to start from scratch and begin again with a premise and HONESTLY and with INTEGRITY collect data once again to determine the TRUE findings. Until then, global warming and any notion that man causes it is just a bunch of nonsense.
World-wide there has been mishandling, lying and literally twisting of this so-called scientific data, how can anyone possibly still say that global warming is definite? It's impossible to determine I don't care who you are or what your credentials are. This is Scientific research 101. When THE scientific think-tank of the world for gathering this global warming data has been revealed as having skewed the data to make their own agenda - it's time to in the VERY least question ALL of the global warming findings, BEST - toss it all out and start from scratch.
You have the right to believe what you wish to believe of course, but my money's on - the earth changes - it always has, it always will. That's historical fact. I also believe based on those facts, SUV's didn't cause it.
I understand what you are saying that there is a separation between the scientific community and political discourse. However, in this case, the scientific evidence has been found to be made-up. The Hollywood types and Al Gore cult followers just mindlessly went along. In this case it is all tied in unfortunately. It was the very source - the scientists and scientific data that was corrupt. It's all very much tied in I'm afraid.
Let's jump on the airwaves with this one Tim! I'd LOVE to talk about this!
Thanks for reading!
Carol
Good hub Sis. Of course you know I agree completely! Here in Gatesville, Texas, deep in the heart of Texas, we have snow this morning and we have been in the deep freeze all week. The past two winters the whole nation has been covered in snow more than usual. Is that a result of global warming???
Stay warm up there. Love ya bushels!
cjv123,
I definetely agree that education is an important part but we have seen first hand that legislation is needed. I think you live in Michigan? I'm sure you could tell stories about the pollution in the great lakes before the EPA was created. I'm in agreement that the EPA (like every govt agency) is most likely over bloated. However, it was through regulations on cars, factories, etc that we started to clean out our country (think rust belt cities before and after EPA).
Cars now have not become more fuel efficient and give out less pollution than cars 40 years ago. This was certainly not because automakers decided to innovate. They have become more fuel efficient and give out less toxins because of regulations forcing them to do so.
Thanks. I loved it!
We are all lemmings to some point. Some more so than others. Nobody knows all of the science that contributes to the theory of climate change and most of us will only know a little piece of it. So, to some extent we most all choose who to believe.
I personally have lived in the Castle of Truth. I don’t know the entire castle but I know part of it and more importantly I have known and worked with some of the people who have built it. They are the ones I choose to believe in. They and I can both evaluate the raw data ourselves and do not need to rely upon Al Gore or IPCC reports or think-tank reviews.
You keep talking about lemmings and con-men but what exactly are you? Are you the scientist who discovered the alleged made-up scientific evidence? Or did somebody tell you that was the case? Who is your trusted source of information? Alex Jones? Lord Monckton? Or how about the American Petroleum Institute – they should be a reliable source. And, what personal agenda do you yourself have that led you to believe them rather than Al Gore? Who is the real lemming here?
Nothing is ever perfect. Nor is the Castle of Truth. It does have some bad stonework, sometimes people do make mistakes. But the Castle is made with lots of stones. Climate Change isn’t “premise ‘A’ backed with scientific research 1, 2 & 3” done by 3 scientists. Climate Change is premise A through Z backed with scientific research 1 through a million done by 10,000 scientists over decades. And you don’t even KNOW if a stone was bad, you have only HEARD that one is, but even if that was the case it is sinfully irresponsible to suggest we should “start from scratch”. The responsible thing to do is to repair or replace the stone if necessary, which is exactly what was done.
I hope you understand that I am not arguing that you SHOULD believe in climate change. I’m happy to live in a world where people have different opinions and it is very important scientifically that there are people working on both sides. That’s how the science gets better. I’m arguing against your method. Your attitude that the entire environmental movement is based upon junk science puts you OUTSIDE of the debate. Nobody in the castle pays any attention to that drivel.
You haven’t brought forth a single piece of evidence, a single scientific study, or a single scientist. ALL that you have is soap-opera-like gossip from the Al Gore Melodrama that you supposedly despise. We could probably go back and forth like this for awhile, but at the end of the day you have to put something on the table.
One last point – if people are going to criticize a theory they should at least know what that theory is. Global warming does not say that every single point on the planet for every single day of the year will be warmer than it used to be. That isn’t the point. Global energy changes don’t produce the same changes in all locations.
Carol, I always said this was a bunch of crap. The temperature of the earth has always changed, didn't we once have an ice age? This was nothing but a political ploy, good job. H
junkseller - here's the last word on the subject - my sources are numerous - legion so-to-speak. One source is The Wall Street Journal. http://hubpages.com/hub/The-The-Wall-Street-Journa
That's not soap-opera like gossip.
Secondly, at this point, it is common knowledge that "Climategate" is true. Following what you call "gossip" a number of your global warming buddies resigned their positions. It would seem where there is global smoke there is a fire...
Here's your problem. You WANT to believe in global warming - it's like a religion. You have faith - with no proof that there's global warming and you have like-minded friends who believe the same. I feel sorry for you and them.
God made a wonderful planet and the FACT is, the climate goes through fluctuations and changes. It's historic, global, fact.
You forget - following the dictates of logic - we already have a FACT here - the earth's temperature changes. The burden is on YOU and YOUR KIND - to PROVE that this is caused by MAN. Not the other way around. I don't have to prove what we know already to be FACTUAL. CLIMATE CHANGES AND ALWAYS HAS.
You can't discredit the FACTS with a negative or by attempting to malign the sources I use. There always existed dissenting scientists who knew that if the climate was changing, it wasn't necessarily caused by man. This too happens to be FACT. Why? Because THE EARTH'S CLIMATE CHANGES. What scientist can YOU provide that can prove that statement of fact to be WRONG? Rhetorical.
It is now common knowledge from numerous sources - the global warming theory has been thoroughly debunked. This is not "gossip" although I understand your need to believe it so - this is now accepted TRUTH.
I repeat - When the very data collected by THE Global Warming think-tank in the UK is found to have been purposefully altered for years, we know it's time to throw out the global warming nonsense. It's the only thing thinking people can do. Backing up this discovery of altered data - many more scientists come out to say they were threatened, fired etc. for providing data that very clearly in the least shed doubt on the man-made global warming thesis. I again repeat - IF the earth is warming - there is now ZERO doubt we can't conclusively claim it's because we drive SUV's.
You want to still believe the cult followers who follow scientists not interested in performing objecting testing, but interested in trying to save their reputations. Where do you get your information from? What proofs do YOU have? Rhetorical
There is absolutely no proof. But if you still choose to follow along - that's your unfortunate problem.
When you honestly and without an agenda, follow along with the history of "global warming" (as detailed above - first it was catastrophic global cooling, then it became "global warming" then because the global warming adherents couldn't explain why the earth was COOLING - they renamed it "global change..." etc.) you can easily and clearly conclude - it's all based on junk science.
I repeat once again ----- The GIVEN is - the earth's climate and temperature changes. That's scientific fact. We now know those who were SO SURE that man did it have based their findings on junk science. Your castle of truth not only has no windows, but it has fallen down. You don't have truth, you have a faith-based idea that you cling to whilst standing among the rubble.
The only "Castle of Truth" is God and His Word. God made the heavens and the earth - man has no authority to destroy it because man didn't have the authority or the ability to make the earth in the first place. The destruction of earth's is God's prerogative. Not a bunch of agenda driven scientists who twist the truth.
That will be the last word because at this point I am having to repeat things I have already handily refuted. Some, a number of time. You are no longer offering any new argument or insightful proofs of your beliefs, you're just stubbornly clinging to something you subjectively believe in when the rest of the world knows - it's not true. But thanks for the debate.
You go ahead and make you home in the rubble of your castle ruins, I prefer to live in the Castle of REALITY and truth.
Junkseller - Take heart! You have a supporter.
C.J. Wright - Got news for you! El Nina is at it again. She and here brother, El Nino, do their thing, reacting to ocean temperatures, etc, and provide a convenient red-herring that climate change de-bunkers can hide behind, and fan the flames of confusion.
The creditable scientific findings, in spite of regional variations and different methodologies, show an undeniable rise in Greenhouse Gas Emmissions (mainly CO2)from the begining of the industrial revolution, increasing exponentially to the present day, along with correspondingly increasing average Land and Ocean temperatures. On top of this gradual, almost unperceptical rise, floats the dramatic disturbances of blizzard, monsoons, rain and drought that get everyone's attention and do bring suffering and tribulation upon the world's people, with the accompanying confusion, anger and frustration.
It's the GHG's from many sources, including farting cows, (who's numbers are increasing due to the improved economy and diet of the developing world) volcanic eruptions, bogs, but mainly human induced factors such as forest destruction, coal burning, oil refining and consumption, that are dooming the planet, not any 'idiot' groups.
Rodmaru - this is rhetorical, and requires no explanation because frankly, your data is founded on shaky at best, faulty, twisted data at worst. Also, if what you say is true, that land and ocean temps have been rising - let's say I believe your data on that - then why was Climategate all about the fact that your favored scientists (the ones touting Global Warming) had to fudge the data because their private emails revealed, they couldn't explain the temperature of the earth RISING?
And another debunker of your argument - the "improved economy?" What planet do you reside upon? Again, rhetorical.
Cj,
global warming is fake the research goofballs lying about "man-made global warming" The local n state environmental "police" do a decent job keeping discovered and permitted emmissions monitored... as such
The EPA is like putting a skirt on a horse- its just extra stuff that gets in the way-
take the EPA make it a 50 person- one per state advisory board-
thats a BIG drop in GOVT employees pay them all 100k and 1 staff member-60k each and give the states the difference in dollars but cut the budget to the states until it dropps to a small amount- 10 million $ what a huge savings ... - big savings-let the states use that $ for env issues-
just an idea...
TH
Great to see you Tom! You're right! I love your visual, "The EPA is like putting a skirt on a horse..." You are a RIOT!
Caro
cj,
I never saw myself as a "riot" more of a group of disgruntle librarians with sunburn...
TH
LOL tom!
Breakfastpop perfectly summed up global warming in one word: non-issue! I love it how you just tell it like it is! As usual, I enjoyed reading.
Thanks Cal! Thanks for taking the time to read it!
Wesman Todd Shaw 15 months ago
I live right outside of Dallas, Texas; and a bit into the countryside. Right this minute, I am freezing me bunz off. It's been below freezing here for about a hundred hours.
Just a few years ago we'd all complain about not even having a Winter anymore. Last February it snowed about three foot, and all at once. I said, "eff that," and went to California for a while.
I repair air conditioners all Spring and Summer, and It hit 120 F a few times this past Summer, and I crawl around in people's attics when it is that temp outside; so it's generally 160 or more in the attic, depending on the age and construction of the home, of course.
Global warming does not exist, I think that climate change does exist; Mother nature has now been diagnosed as bi polar.